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About U.G. Krishnamurti
To read U.G. is to be introduced to a "spiritual terrorist":
he overturns all of our accepted beliefs -- God, mind, soul,
enlightenment, religion, humanity, heart, love, relationships
-- and gives us a totally different picture of who we are.
The result is a grenade in the brain.
(taken from http://www.well.com/~...)
meet other local people to share and discuss the effects on life of this "grenade".
some links to U.G. resources:
The Essential U.G. with video, pictures and quotes from him (where the ones below where taken)
U.G.Krishnamurti his books, articles, video...
U.G. entry on Wikipedia biography, links
Mind is a Myth handy pdf conversion of the book
U.G. Krishnamurti Section forum, audio/video library, books and articles short quotes
some randomly chosen quotes of U.G. take from The Essential U.G.:
what others have said [that is too easy],
but to knock off what I am saying.
More precisely, I am trying to stop
what you are making out of what I am saying.
continuity to your separative self is 'you'.
There is nothing there inside you other than that.
are the basic cause of our suffering.
searching for happiness, you will remain unhappy.
Moksha, liberation, or self-realisation, you will be miserable.
that made him feel separate and superior to the
other forms of life, at that moment he began
sowing the seeds of his own destruction.
seeking is already inside you, in the
harmonious functioning of the body.
and you don't want that to happen.
I am not talking of wiping out the phobias
of the body.
They are necessary for survival.
The death of fear is the only death.
Why should there be any purpose to living?
Living itself is all that is there.
Your search for spiritual meaning has
made a problem out of living.
unless the whole of human experience
is thrown out of your system.
It cannot be done through any
volition or the help of anything.
and the mind is a myth.
springs from your thinking, which is
essentially a protective mechanism.
The mind has invented both religion
and dynamite to protect what it
regards as its best interests.
should be, from now on,
to debunk every statement
I have made.
If you take seriously and try to use
or apply what I have said,
you will be in danger.
very idea that you have to be saved.
You must be saved from the saviors,
redeemed from the redeemers.
When you know something, there is nothing to say.
doing or not doing leads to the same end:
misery.
So doing nothing is no different from doing something.
is no individual there at all.
There is only a certain gathering of
knowledge--which is thought--but no
individuality there.
add to your misery--that is all.
By continuing to listen to me you
merely heap one more misery
upon those you already have.
where nobody has touched it before.
Nobody can teach you that.
for the first time, you will
never know what hit you.
Everything man has taught,
felt and experienced is gone,
and nothing is put in its place.
all that I am saying, and all gurus,
you will remain a cultist with photographs,
rituals, birthday celebrations and the like.
than you think.
It is not that I am eager to
help you understand, that I feel
that I must help you.
Not at all. I am only interested
in making it crystal clear that
there is nothing to understand.
somehow the truth has to dawn
upon you that there is nothing
to understand.
yourself the more impossible it becomes
to be humble and sensitive.
How can there be humility as
long as you know something?
unique individuals, where as culture
has invented a single mold to which
all must conform. It is grotesque.
It is the known that creates the unknown.
It is the time that has created the timeless.
It is thought that has created the thoughtless.
of emotional content for you,
but not for me.
I am only interested in what is
actually happening now,
not tomorrow or yesterday.
as it is presently organised.
The way I am thinking, functioning,
and operating is a threat to the present society.
from disease to divinity.
But my views are of no more importance
than those of the maid cleaning and cooking there.
all this knowledge you are so proud
of flaunting isn't worth a tinker's damn.
There is no such thing as humility.
As long as you know,there is no humility.
The known and humility cannot coexist
to get pleasure. Whatever you use an idea,
a concept, a drug, or a person,
or anything else,
you cannot have pleasure
without using something.
all these sociopaths, has invented
morality to protect itself from them.
Society has created the 'saints'
and 'sinners'. I don't accept them as such.
anything as a model.
When once it has perfected a
unique individual, that individual
is thrown off the evolutionary process
and is of no further interest to nature.
Buddha, or Krishna we have destroyed
the possibility of nature throwing up unique individuals.
can be turned out in a factory.
A truly unique person, having no cultural
reference point, would never know that he is unique.
to find out. Your problem is not how to
get something from somebody,
but how to reject everything that is offered by anybody.
then yoga begins. Yoga is actually the
body's skill in bringing itself back
from the state of clinical death.
to be selfless, you will be a self-centered individual.
becoming something other than what you
are isn't there any more, you are not in conflict with yourself.
that is involved doesn't want to leave it alone.
That is really the problem.
you is the creation of thought.
You are yourself born out of thought, otherwise
you would not be here at all.
In that sense thought has a tremendous value,
yet it is the very thing that will destroy you.
and do every kind of research to find the seat of
human consciousness, but there is no such thing
as the seat of human consciousness at all.
There is no such thing as seat,
located in any particular individual.
What is there is thought.
It is not this particular entity,
which is non-existing even while you are living,
takes a series of births.
It is the object that creates the subject.
This runs counter to the whole
philosophical thinking of India.
the knowledge that is there does
not belong to you.
So, why are you concerned as
to what will happen after what
you call "you" is gone?
what is there is living from moment
to moment.
It's all in frames, millions and
millions and millions of frames,
to put it in the language of film.
he won't be hiding somewhere.
He will be there shining like the star.
You can't keep such people under bushel.
or my mind.
May be there is such a thing as the
"world mind" where all the cumulative
knowledge and the experiences
thereof are accumulated and passed
on from generation to generation.
you don't have to do a thing.
No effort is necessary.
You don't have to exercise your will,
you don't have to do anything to be yourself.
But to be something other than
what you are, you have to do a lot of things.
happened, it happened to those people
who had given up completely
and totally all their search.
That is an absolute requisite
for that kind of a thing.
"love thy neighbor as thyself"
is responsible for this horror
in the world today.
Don't exonerate those teachers.
through violence.
Yoga, meditation, prayers, mantras,
are all violent techniques.
The living organism is very peaceful;
you don't have to do a thing.
The peacefully functioning body doesn't
care one hoot for your ecstasies,
beatitudes, or blissful states.
movement of life, it is much too slow.
It is like lightning and thunder.
They occur simultaneously,
but sound, travelling slower than light,
reaches you later,
creating the illusion of
two separate events.
is simply that your spiritual and religious activities
are basically selfish.
the memories people have of me
are also buried along with it ,
that will be the end of me.
influencing or changing anybody.
This is a statement on what I am,
how I lived, nothing more.
This will not be of any tremendous
value for mankind and should not be
preserved for posterity.
I don't believe in posterity.
There is no teaching to preserve.
Teaching implies something that can
be used to bring about change.
Sorry....there is no teaching here,
just disjointed, disconnected sentences.
The red queen has to run faster and faster
to keep still where she is.
That is exactly what you are all doing.
running faster and faster.
But you are not moving anywhere.
There is no oasis situated yonder;
you are stuck with the mirage.
it is not the dead state of mind that
spiritual seekers think.
This is volcanic in its nature;
it's bubbling all the time--the energy,
the life--that is its quality.
poetry and language is all culturally
determined and is the product of thought.
It is acquired taste that tells you
that Beethoven's Ninth Symphony is more
beautiful than a chorus of cats screaming;
both produce equally valid sensations.
thing in life you have that comes close
to being a first-hand experience;
all the rest of your experiences
are second-hand, somebody else's.
in which questioning has stopped.
It has stopped because those questions
have no relation to the way the organism
is functioning, and the way the organism
is functioning leaves no room for questions.
strengthens the knowledge. This is a vicious circle.
for the sake of knowledge.
Knowledge is power.
"I know. You don't know".
piece of creation.
But as a human being he is rotten
because of the culture.
That is why you get evil thoughts
when you start meditating.
for whatever reason is the very thing
that can free you.
when compared to the spiritual and religious
pollution that have plagued the world.
and the life another.
It is one unitary movement.
Anything I say about it is
misleading and confusing.
is based upon the idea of transforming yourself.
I maintain that there is nothing to change or transform.
except as a thought.
There is one thought.
Everything exists in relationship
to that one thought.
That thought is 'me'.
Anything you experience based on thought is illusion.
You are blessed with that intelligence;
nobody need give it to you;
nobody can take it away from you.
He who lets that express itself
in its own way is a 'Natural Man'.
a sixth-century B.C. Buddha,
let alone all the other claimants
we have in our midst.
They are a bunch of exploiters,
thriving on the gullibility of the people.
in anything you are interested in.
And that is the battle
that is going on all the time.
is the discovery for yourself
and by yourself that there is
no self to discover.
That will be a very shocking thing
because it's going to blast every nerve,
every cell, even the cells
in the marrow of your bones.
whatever you are doing in the direction
of purifying that consciousness is adding impurity to it.
organism is already there.
The tremendous intelligence of the body
is no match for all that we have gathered
and acquired through our intellect.
a mess behind him in this world.
in your wonderful religious ideas--peace,
bliss, beatitude or any such thing.
Its only interest is survival.
What society has placed before us
as the goal to reach and attain
is the enemy of this living organism.
my description to the way you
are functioning.
When you stop all this comparison,
what is there is your Natural State.
Then you will not listen to anybody.
what others have said [that is too easy],
but to knock off what I am saying.
More precisely, I am trying to stop
what you are making out of what I am saying.
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